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Mar
8
2014

CC Restructured! Things to know -- by Jon Bjarnason

So finally after years and years of waiting, the new CC site is finally here. If you missed my earlier blog and haven't played around with the beta site yet you might be in for a bit of a shock.

In this short blog I will go over some of the main changes in a FAQ format. Send more questions my way in the comments section and I'll do my best to answer them.

Where is the logged on member list?

The memberlist that used to be at the bottom of the left-hand menu is now in the notification center.

Where are my bookmarks?

Your in-site bookmarks are now on the right-hand side of the new toolbar

Where is all the stuff under "My Page" such as Tit-for-tat?

In the new site there is no "My Page" menu option like in the old site.

All these things can now be accessed by clicking on your username in the top bar.

The background is too bright!

You can change the site background color by clicking on your username at the top, go into Change Settings and there you will find the Color Settings option.

Where are my customization options?

On the old CC site you could customize the look-and-feel of the site with the little paintbrush icon.

There are no site-wide customization options on the new site except for the ability to change the background color. You do this by clicking on your username at the top, go into Change Settings and there you will find the Color Settings option.

You are able the customize the look and feel of your story view with the new version. You access this by clicking the "Format Story" option in the story toolbar.

How can I make the text bigger?

There is no option to make the text bigger site-wide anymore. This is because modern browsers have the ability built in. In order to make the site larger use control + on your keyboard. You can then zoom out by hitting control -.

What is this "Notification center" I keep hearing about?

The change is mostly about changing the layout of the site but I did manage to sneak in some new things as well. One of the coolest new things we have is the Notification Center.  What Im referring to here are the icons at the top of the page. There you can see at a glance changed threads and messages and get some juicy details when you click the icons.

Give it a try. We think this is a great productivity boost and you can expect to see more things pop up in there in the future.

I am a premium member and I can no longer choose to make text ads fainter

This feature was incompatible with the rich content ads that are now being shown (even before this change). We therefore removed this option.

Send a message to Administrator if you are really unhappy about this.

Why did you need to change all the stuff?

The layout of the site was getting to be a little long in the tooth since it hadn't changed much in the ten years since we opened. With new technologies such as mobile platforms we needed to make the layout different so that the site would be usable.

The new layout looks really good on mobile phones, tablets and desktops. It makes better use of screen realestate and uses best practices in modern web design.

For more rationalizing take a look at my blogs on the subject: The changing face of CC - Basic Layout and The changing face of CC - Story view.

Can you let people choose to use the old page?

I'm afraid not. This look is here to stay and the old look is gone forever.

I found a bug, what should I do?

Please don't keep it to yourself. If you see something broken chances are I don't know about it and never will unless you speak up. You can either just add a comment to the thread on this blog or use the Report Bug link at the bottom of every page.

I have a question about the new site that isn't answered here

Just add your question as a comment on this blog and I will put it into the blog itself with an answer.

Posted by Jon Bjarnason 8 Mar 2014
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Responses to this blog

Nonnib (administrator) 10 Mar 2014 at 09:24  
Welcome to the new CC everyone. Feel free to add your comments and concerns to this thread.
Wingnut21 10 Mar 2014 at 09:47  
Like everything, it will take getting used to. I am only irritated (totally irritated) because it changed as I was nearly finished with a crit review. Since nothing was saved I had to log back in again, go to my story, gather my thoughts again, and rewrite the whole crit. I just want you to know that sucked.

Wingnut
Nonnib (administrator) 10 Mar 2014 at 10:03  
I'm sorry to hear that. The crits in progress should be saved automatically. Were you writing an inline crit or another crit type? Which story were you critting?
Bkay 10 Mar 2014 at 10:16  
Thanks for all the hard work you've done in updating the site! I haven't played around with it much yet, but so far I really like the look/feel of it! I'm also happy to hear that I'll be able to use it better with my iPad and iPhone.


Swat 10 Mar 2014 at 10:46  
Okay, issue time:

As a premium member, I can no longer make the ads sort of faded/muted. The drop down lists it all as "Premium Gold Members Only". The ads are too much for me! My eyes!
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Nonnib (administrator) 10 Mar 2014 at 10:59  
Quote by: Swat
As a premium member, I can no longer make the ads sort of faded/muted. The drop down lists it all as "Premium Gold Members Only". The ads are too much for me! My eyes!

Yes, I removed that feature. It wasn't compatible with rich content ads that are being served and I was told Google doesn't like it when site owners are messing around with their ads.
We're sorry about this. Premium members who feel cheated by this change and would like a refund send us a message.
Swat 10 Mar 2014 at 11:03  
That is sort of really sucky - part of the reason I was a premium member was to mute those ads. Can I think about it and get back to you vis a vis a refund?
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Swat 10 Mar 2014 at 11:07  
Actually, I will do the refund thing. Who should I contact?
Administrator (administrator) 10 Mar 2014 at 11:09  
Just send a message to me.
Swat 10 Mar 2014 at 11:17  
Thanks - I think I found a solution actually. Plus the whole novel settings and what not is still helpful. And also I like my skunk.
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Sonofjohn 10 Mar 2014 at 11:36  
Overall, I like the new look and feel of the website. There is one tool that I miss from the old format: the Tit for Tat view. I'm thankful for the effort that other members put into critiquing my stories and would like to return the favor, and that view made it easy to track when one of my critiquers' stories came up for review.

Is there a way to add that back in? or is it here in the new format, just hidden somewhere?
Aries75 10 Mar 2014 at 11:42  
Quote by: Sonofjohn
Overall, I like the new look and feel of the website. There is one tool that I miss from the old format: the Tit for Tat view.

It absolutely is still there. All you have to do is click your username in the top-right corner of the menu bar, and then you'll get the same pop-up shown in this screenshot: www.critiquecircle.com/images/upload/ccrestructure_mypage2.jpg

Can you see the link called "Tit for Tat" list near the bottom?
Sully 10 Mar 2014 at 12:13  

It it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Remember the Coca-Cola recipe change disaster?

Hilary 10 Mar 2014 at 12:26  
Quote by: Swat
Okay, issue time:

As a premium member, I can no longer make the ads sort of faded/muted. The drop down lists it all as "Premium Gold Members Only". The ads are too much for me! My eyes! <br>




I ad-blocked google and I never see their ads on any site I visit, including Facebook. It's great and means I can concentrate on the real purpose of a website, not on someone trying to part me from my cash. It's free and you can find it here: chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock/gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom?hl=en
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Swat 10 Mar 2014 at 12:27  
Absolutely. Unfortunately I run IE on a Surface RT. It has limited abilities as far as Ad Blocks go. There isn't a dedicated program for it. However, I did find a recommendation for a proxy-change-thingamabob, and it worked! Looks like I'll be keeping my membership!
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Pranabow 10 Mar 2014 at 13:46  
Is their a way to get the "Reading view" back? Where we can see the stories as if they are separated by pages?
Pranabow 10 Mar 2014 at 13:50  
The current story format gives me such a headache to even read it, much less critique it. I've played with all the formats that we are given the options to, and none of them help
Spiritrose 10 Mar 2014 at 13:52  
I view the site in Firefox, which has Adblock. I never saw the ads, even when I wasn't in the premium club.
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Pranabow 10 Mar 2014 at 13:59  
Back to the critiques, with the current color coding, I can't tell what I've commented on and what I haven't. The color, it used to be a dark blue, for the paragraphs you had made comments before are not only a 'slightly' different color than the other text and makes me squint to even find the sections of text that I've commented on. I could 'open all' but that really annoys me and makes going back and forth on top of starting a critique back up in the morning before work more trouble. So, I'd like not only the reading mode back, but if you could, please add an option to change the color of the highlighted text that you have actually commented on.
Jkang 10 Mar 2014 at 14:54  
I like the new menus, but everything is so bright, my eyes get tired!
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Vermilion 10 Mar 2014 at 20:00  
I don't like the new font for the stories. Is there a way I can switch to the old font?
Pranabow 11 Mar 2014 at 01:55  
I've basically told everyone whose story I was working on that I'm putting it on pause until something gets done about the reading mode/font/brightness. I do most of my critiquing before work in the morning and getting a migraine before work is a no-no
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Nonnib (administrator) 11 Mar 2014 at 02:14  
Quote by: Vermilion
I don't like the new font for the stories. Is there a way I can switch to the old font?

Yes, the old font is called 'Verdana' and it is the same font that is used for other text on the site. It is one of the options you have.
Pranabow 11 Mar 2014 at 02:24  
Quote by: Nonnib
Quote by: Vermilion
I don't like the new font for the stories. Is there a way I can switch to the old font?

Yes, the old font is called 'Verdana' and it is the same font that is used for other text on the site. It is one of the options you have.



Unfortunately, with the way the brightness is and the lack of 'reading view' to dull that part, it still makes it glaring to the eyes.
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Nonnib (administrator) 11 Mar 2014 at 02:43  
Quote by: Pranabow
Is their a way to get the "Reading view" back? Where we can see the stories as if they are separated by pages?
Quote by: Pranabow
The current story format gives me such a headache to even read it, much less critique it. I've played with all the formats that we are given the options to, and none of them help
Quote by: Pranabow
I've basically told everyone whose story I was working on that I'm putting it on pause until something gets done about the reading mode/font/brightness. I do most of my critiquing before work in the morning and getting a migraine before work is a no-no

Quote by: Pranabow
Back to the critiques, with the current color coding, I can't tell what I've commented on and what I haven't. The color, it used to be a dark blue, for the paragraphs you had made comments before are not only a 'slightly' different color than the other text and makes me squint to even find the sections of text that I've commented on. I could 'open all' but that really annoys me and makes going back and forth on top of starting a critique back up in the morning before work more trouble. So, I'd like not only the reading mode back, but if you could, please add an option to change the color of the highlighted text that you have actually commented on.

Replies in this thread: www.critiquecircle.com/forums.asp?action=viewforum&index=23&thread=1105206&offset=-1
Vermilion 11 Mar 2014 at 02:48  

Yes, the old font is called 'Verdana' and it is the same font that is used for other text on the site. It is one of the options you have.

Sorry, how do I do that? I checked under settings -> Appearance and also under the stories option, can't find it.
Nonnib (administrator) 11 Mar 2014 at 02:50  
Quote by: Vermilion

Yes, the old font is called 'Verdana' and it is the same font that is used for other text on the site. It is one of the options you have.

Sorry, how do I do that? I checked under settings -> Appearance and also under the stories option, can't find it.


Take a look here under Where are my customization options?
Vermilion 11 Mar 2014 at 02:52  
OK thanks! Just found the option.
Waterloon 11 Mar 2014 at 03:16  
There used to be an option in the forums where you could click a little box at the top of the thread list where it said "Threads" (or something like that) and it would check all the boxes next to each unread message. Then at the bottom there was a button you could click that said "Mark as Read." It would remove all the posts except the ones that weren't checked. I used that option a lot. Now it seems like I have to click on each forum post to mark it as read (if I don't want to read it). Am I missing something or is that option no longer available? If it isn't can it be added?
Pranabow 11 Mar 2014 at 03:55  
Quote by: Nonnib
Quote by: Pranabow
Is their a way to get the "Reading view" back? Where we can see the stories as if they are separated by pages?
Quote by: Pranabow
The current story format gives me such a headache to even read it, much less critique it. I've played with all the formats that we are given the options to, and none of them help
Quote by: Pranabow
I've basically told everyone whose story I was working on that I'm putting it on pause until something gets done about the reading mode/font/brightness. I do most of my critiquing before work in the morning and getting a migraine before work is a no-no

Quote by: Pranabow
Back to the critiques, with the current color coding, I can't tell what I've commented on and what I haven't. The color, it used to be a dark blue, for the paragraphs you had made comments before are not only a 'slightly' different color than the other text and makes me squint to even find the sections of text that I've commented on. I could 'open all' but that really annoys me and makes going back and forth on top of starting a critique back up in the morning before work more trouble. So, I'd like not only the reading mode back, but if you could, please add an option to change the color of the highlighted text that you have actually commented on.

Replies in this thread: www.critiquecircle.com/forums.asp?action=viewforum&index=23&thread=1105206&offset=-1




Changing the color option doesn't help. I've tried all the 'options' out. of the 4 colors. Using dark gray because it is the 'darkest of the three, but it still doesn't help, especially when reading. Something about the way the reading mode is now makes it hard to even focus on the page. On top of that, it's hard to tell what paragraphs I've even checked/said something about no matter the color of the 'paper' I use for it (that causes it's own headaches since I normally spend in excess of 3 hours on each full-sized critique), it still adds that bright glare to it. It's easier to read things in Microsoft office. Even making the text to 'huge' with max spacing between letters so that I don't have to focus on the page as hard doesn't help. I read through their post. I wouldn't be posting the complaints I have if I didn't. If they made the 'marked' paragraphs darker again or stick out like they used to it might be easier to focus. If they made the reading/critiquing mode easier to read, the lighter 'marked' paragraphs might be okay to deal with, but as it is, I could barely deal with either, and it would still reduce the amount of time I would critique, but both? I tried to go back to one of my critiques this morning. Less than 10 min in, my head began to throb. about a third of the way through, maybe less and close to 500 words. I may just submit it as is. I haven't bothered checking the critiques I've received, but I'm not hopeful the results would be the same.

Why can't they add a 'classic' mode? or even return the 'toggle reader mode'?
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Skipstone 11 Mar 2014 at 03:55  
I'm not sure what the problem is with the brightness. Can't people control that on their screens?
I'm pretty keen on the new format.
Stone
Jkang 11 Mar 2014 at 04:08  
Quote by: Skipstone
I'm not sure what the problem is with the brightness. Can't people control that on their screens?
I'm pretty keen on the new format.
Stone



If we have multiple windows open (which I always do), then that would be really inconvenient for changing screen brightness every single time.

On the bright side (hah!), with spring coming up, I can probably read the screen outside in the sun...
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Waterloon 11 Mar 2014 at 04:10  
With a little more exploring, I found the answer to my question.
Jkang 11 Mar 2014 at 04:15  
OK, I just found "change background color" and it solved the problem
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Pranabow 11 Mar 2014 at 04:18  
Quote by: Skipstone
I'm not sure what the problem is with the brightness. Can't people control that on their screens?
I'm pretty keen on the new format.
Stone




I can, and then any time I have to go to another website, I have to click the brightness back up as those websites don't shine like flashlights.


Just tried it out and all it does is make the center part the headache to read on any setting that reduces the side-brights enough to matter.
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Hilary 11 Mar 2014 at 06:33  
Quote by: Jkang
OK, I just found "change background color" and it solved the problem <br>



Where?????
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Jkang 11 Mar 2014 at 06:58  
Quote by: Hilary
Quote by: Jkang
OK, I just found "change background color" and it solved the problem <br>



Where?????<br>



www.critiquecircle.com/mysettings.asp
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Pools 11 Mar 2014 at 07:20  
Hi Nonnib

First, thanks for the work you have put into the new look website. Overall, I like the new layout and structure. Here is where I'm struggling:

Reading Pane
I really miss this old feature. It allowed me to easily see how many more pages I had to go before the crit was over. Please, please, please bring it back.

Font
The contrast between the letters and the background when I read a story has deteriorated in the new version, making reading a strain. I found that increasing the font size improves contrast, but I don't want to read the big letters.

In line Critted Paragraph Highlight
The contrast between the critted paragraph and non-critted paragraph is now very weak, making it very difficult to tell which paragraphs have my comments and which don't. Changing the background colour doesn't help me much.

That's all I've picked up so far. I'll add more as I experience the new site. Cheers!

Hilary 11 Mar 2014 at 08:30  
Did what I could but to be honest, there's little to choose from between the colour ranges. They're all so similar, and to me insipid. Oh well.
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Pools 11 Mar 2014 at 09:22  
Hi again

I'm checking out the new site on my wife's iPad now. The font looks great and the contrast between critiqued and non-critiqued paragraphs is great. Perhaps in accommodating tablet users, us PC users got left behind? Or maybe it's a browser thing? I'll try again on IE or FF tomorrow and see if that helps. I prefer working on a machine with a keyboard, and not the iPad.

My bank also recently upgraded their banking website, an fit renders similarly terribly on the laptop PC. Maybe PCs need upgrades to catch up with tablets?
Hilary 11 Mar 2014 at 11:22  
Some of us have never considered getting a tablet, so looks like we'll be left behind. (I'm not planning on even thinking about buying anything like that, happy with what I already have.)
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Clarksvill 11 Mar 2014 at 11:36  
Quote by: Waterloon
With a little more exploring, I found the answer to my question.
What was it?

Waterloon 11 Mar 2014 at 12:08  
Quote by: Clarksvill
Quote by: Waterloon
With a little more exploring, I found the answer to my question.
What was it?

I clicked on the little balloon icon in the upper right corner and it gave me a list of unread forum posts. If I go all the way down to the bottom of that list there's a link that says "view all unread threads." I click on that and it's set up pretty much the way the old forum posts were, with the little button on top for "thread" and the button at the bottom that says "mark select threads as read." Just an extra click but workable.

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Clarksvill 11 Mar 2014 at 12:24  
Quote by: Waterloon
Quote by: Clarksvill
Quote by: Waterloon
With a little more exploring, I found the answer to my question.
What was it?

I clicked on the little balloon icon in the upper right corner and it gave me a list of unread forum posts. If I go all the way down to the bottom of that list there's a link that says "view all unread threads." I click on that and it's set up pretty much the way the old forum posts were, with the little button on top for "thread" and the button at the bottom that says "mark select threads as read." Just an extra click but workable.
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Ah, yes. Thanks!

Sonofjohn 11 Mar 2014 at 18:18  

Aries75 Yesterday at 12:42

Quote by: SonofjohnOverall, I like the new look and feel of the website. There is one tool that I miss from the old format: the Tit for Tat view.


It absolutely is still there. All you have to do is click your username in the top-right corner of the menu bar, and then you'll get the same pop-up shown in this screenshot: www.critiquecircle.com/images/upload/ccrestructure_mypage2.jpg

Can you see the link called "Tit for Tat" list near the bottom?



Thanks, I see it now — I feel foolish for not seeing that before.
Jberkowitz 13 Mar 2014 at 16:46  
It looks like you just created a new home page item in the right column for bookmarked items, and eliminated bookmarked items from the reminders item at the top of the left column. Personally I liked it the way it was before. However now the right column is waaaaaay longer than the left column. Is there a way to turn off any of these items, or move them around so that I can get two balanced columns again?
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Hijo 13 Mar 2014 at 17:01  
Jberkowitz,
On the right side of each title there is an arrow. Click the arrow and it will shrink to only the title. You can also move any of your boxes by hovering over the icon on the left side of the title. You will get a four headed arrow, hold your cursor down and move the box wherever you wish.
Jberkowitz 13 Mar 2014 at 23:54  
I knew about minimizing them, but not moving them. That's fantastic. Thank you.

Edit: They won't stay where I put them. Are they supposed to? Every time I refresh or log in on a different computer they have gone back to where they were originally, or some variation.
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Nonnib (administrator) 14 Mar 2014 at 01:58  
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I knew about minimizing them, but not moving them. That's fantastic. Thank you.

Edit: They won't stay where I put them. Are they supposed to? Every time I refresh or log in on a different computer they have gone back to where they were originally, or some variation.


That sounds like a bug but sadly I cannot reproduce it. I've put in some new logging, can you try it out and send us a bug report if it fails again telling us which box you moved where, only to have it revert once you refreshed? Please include information about which browser and platform are you using.

Thanks!
Clarksvill 14 Mar 2014 at 04:26  
I rearranged mine last night and they're still where I put them.

(Some of them won't go in certain directions, though. I don't know if this is as it's meant to be.)
Hijo 14 Mar 2014 at 04:46  
I had that happen to me yesterday. I was working on a crit, came back to the main page, and my reminder list had moved from the upper left to the lower right. Hasn't done it again.
Jberkowitz 14 Mar 2014 at 09:39  
Quote by: Nonnib
That sounds like a bug but sadly I cannot reproduce it. I've put in some new logging, can you try it out and send us a bug report if it fails again telling us which box you moved where, only to have it revert once you refreshed? Please include information about which browser and platform are you using.

Thanks!

I wish I had time or the patience. I just spent a frustrating hour moving and refreshing, and there is no way I'm going to be able to take the time to report every move, click , and result.

I'm using Firefox 27.0.1. Basically, I can move them around wherever I want, bu upon refresh one box will insist on moving over from the left column to the right column. I move it back to somewhere in the left column and refresh and another box jumps over. Not always the same one. Not always the 3 down from the top, or whatever. But usually just one jumps from left to right. I can't tell you the exact configuration I had because I've repeated this futile exercise about 100 times, and it was different every time.

Basically I was trying to put Bookmarked stories, Reminders, Manuscript Progress, and Polls on the left, and Hot Discussions and the Blog on the right, and all of the others are minimized and at the bottom. I don't care on which side. I've finally gotten them to stay — only because I was happy with the forced jump it made and willing to live with it. I have no idea where Reminders is, now, because I don't have any active ones (it used to contained the bookmarked stories, but you yanked that out and made a new box). So I'm afraid it will reappear nowhere near where I want it — at the top on the left — and I will have to go through all of this again.

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Nonnib (administrator) 14 Mar 2014 at 10:15  
Quote by: Jberkowitz
Basically I was trying to put Bookmarked stories, Reminders, Manuscript Progress, and Polls on the left, and Hot Discussions and the Blog on the right, and all of the others are minimized and at the bottom. I don't care on which side. I've finally gotten them to stay — only because I was happy with the forced jump it made and willing to live with it. I have no idea where Reminders is, now, because I don't have any active ones (it used to contained the bookmarked stories, but you yanked that out and made a new box). So I'm afraid it will reappear nowhere near where I want it — at the top on the left — and I will have to go through all of this again.
Found some stuff, fixed some stuff. Hopefully it's better now.

Jberkowitz 14 Mar 2014 at 10:44  

Found some stuff, fixed some stuff. Hopefully it's better now.
Yeah, I just refreshed and everything moved over to the right column. I'll try moving them around again, but I have work to do; I don't have any more time to waste on this.

Edit: Nope. Same exact ****.
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Jberkowitz 14 Mar 2014 at 13:46  
Nonnib, it seems to be staying where it is right now. So if I'm the only one complaining about this issue, please don't pull your hair out over it. I don't intend to move things around very often, if ever. Honestly, I didn't even know I could until yesterday when Hijo pointed out that feature.

Sorry for the rant. The site is light years ahead of the last version, and a joy to use on my phone. So I applaud you and your efforts, and thank you.
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Nonnib (administrator) 14 Mar 2014 at 14:41  
Great to hear. It must have been that thing I fixed earlier. The reason it didn't work right away might be that it was stuck in a cache somewhere.
Icmartin 14 Mar 2014 at 16:03  
I quite like the new site, but then I'm fairly new and haven't spent a lot of time on the old site.

I don't know if there's a section for site improvement suggestions, if there is, I can't find it.

I think a highlight/annotation tool would be really useful for critters when reading through a story. I usually read the whole story, or a fair way through, before deciding if I want to submit a critique. Along the way, I'll notice issues that I'd like to highlight or annotate, for later, for if I decide to go ahead with the critique. Currently, I have to rely on memory, or take notes in another application, or copy the whole thing to a word processing program.

I realise this could be a tricky tool to implement. I did find this site add-on that may or not work. a.nnotate.com/annotate-buttons.html whether the annotations would remain visible after clicking on the 'write a critique' button is unknown.

I've tried using Firefox add-on highlighter and note taking extensions, however, I lose the highlights/notes when I click on the 'Write a critique' button. The only way around this is to have two pages open, one with highlights, the other for writing the critique, it's messy that way though.

The other alternative would be to allow a critter to create a saveable personal critique of a story (using the existing inline method), that can later be submitted as a 'proper' critique once the critter is finished. That way I wouldn't have to complete a whole critique in one go, I would be able to start, save and return to it later. If this is already an option, I'm going to feel like a fool, but if it is, I haven't noticed.
Aries75 14 Mar 2014 at 16:14  
Quote by: Icmartin
The other alternative would be to allow a critter to create a saveable personal critique of a story (using the existing inline method), that can later be submitted as a 'proper' critique once the critter is finished. That way I wouldn't have to complete a whole critique in one go, I would be able to start, save and return to it later. If this is already an option, I'm going to feel like a fool, but if it is, I haven't noticed.

It is Critiques auto-save as you write them (at least, I *think* this is the default setting), and then, if you quit and come back to CC, on the front page you'll see a "Reminders" box with a link to your crits in progress. You can also find your saved-but-not-submitted crits through the Notification Center (i.e. the flag icon near the top-right corner of the main menu bar).
Icmartin 14 Mar 2014 at 17:49  
Thanks for that. I'll test it out on my next critique.
Spiritrose 15 Mar 2014 at 07:46  
I can't get my queue arrangement to save. It keeps resetting with the default list.
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Aries75 16 Mar 2014 at 11:26  
Here's an odd little bug that seems to crop up from time to time:

i.imgur.com/beRaUIs.png

Note how it says only 2 members are online, though obviously you see a lot more people than that on the expanded list.
Ravvierav 16 Mar 2014 at 22:52  
I loved how I'd be able to see my credit balance at a glance no matter what page I was on. It's just slightly a little more painful having to click on my user name each time to see it. Would it be possible to have it in brackets beside the user name?
Bean60 17 Mar 2014 at 05:18  
I like that we are now directed to the top of a forum page instead of the bottom. Thanks.
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Fictiondog 20 Mar 2014 at 09:31  
Not sure if this is "new site" related or what, but when I went to grade the exercises ("Nine words") a whole bunch of solutions popped up with dates back to 2009. A huge HUH?
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Nadinucca 20 Mar 2014 at 10:03  
I'm not sure if this has been commented on before, but when the new period started, my buddy events all appeared duplicated on my home page. Every single one of them appeared twice and I had to delete them.

Another thing: where has the crit reminder button gone? I used it all the time to organize my weeks and now the only thing I have is the bookmark button which isn't the same and isn't useful to me.
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Clarksvill 20 Mar 2014 at 10:11  
Quote by: Nadinucca
I'm not sure if this has been commented on before, but when the new period started, my buddy events all appeared duplicated on my home page. Every single one of them appeared twice and I had to delete them.

Another thing: where has the crit reminder button gone? I used it all the time to organize my weeks and now the only thing I have is the bookmark button which isn't the same and isn't useful to me. <br>

The bookmark section (on the front page) is where crit reminders live now. I've moved my bookmark section across so it's under the Reminders section, which makes it feel quite similar to the old system. Works fine. The only thing you can't do is cancel reminders from the front page any more.

(You can move sections around using the symbol in the top left of each section.)

Nadinucca 20 Mar 2014 at 11:15  
So the actual crit reminder option has been sacked? Why?

The bookmarks aren't the same. For starters, you need a different box and it doesn't even display all the information we had with the reminders (critique period, with bold for active stories). Why erase perfectly good reminders? *frustrated* Am I really the only person who misses being able to organize weekly critiques with reminders?
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Clarksvill 20 Mar 2014 at 11:34  
Quote by: Nadinucca
So the actual crit reminder option has been sacked? Why?

The bookmarks aren't the same. For starters, you need a different box and it doesn't even display all the information we had with the reminders (critique period, with bold for active stories). Why erase perfectly good reminders? *frustrated* Am I really the only person who misses being able to organize weekly critiques with reminders?<br>


The crit reminder option is exactly the same, they just appear in the bookmarks box instead of your general reminders box.

If you move the bookmarks box so it's underneath your reminders box it's very much like the old system. The extra information was removed because for some reason it was coming up double spaced with the new CC and using up loads of space on the front page. I don't miss that information myself because it wasn't particularly useful to know the dates it was up for critique when you can see whether it's in bold or not (you can still see the bold thing in the bookmarks box).

Nadinucca 20 Mar 2014 at 11:41  
Clarksville. I didn't thank you before for responding. Thanks.

I already have the box under the other box. That's what I'm whining about. So I have one box for reminders where my buddy activity appears, and another box for bookmarks which are supposed to be the crit reminders. Why not concentrate everything in the same space: "Reminders"?
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Hijo 20 Mar 2014 at 11:45  
I actually like the new way. I moved reminders all the way to the top left. That way when I have crits I'm working on or messages I see them right away.
Then right below that I put my bookmarked stories.
Clarksvill 20 Mar 2014 at 11:59  
Quote by: Hijo
I actually like the new way. I moved reminders all the way to the top left. That way when I have crits I'm working on or messages I see them right away.
Then right below that I put my bookmarked stories.

Yes, that's how I have it. I'm finding it good. Better, actually because I like the reminders on top. But you could put the crit reminders on top.

I think the only problem with the new system is that it's called bookmarks rather than crit reminders, which confuses the issue with the other bookmarks thing. (Bookmarked pages.)
Clarksvill 20 Mar 2014 at 12:01  
Quote by: Nadinucca
Clarksville. I didn't thank you before for responding. Thanks.

I already have the box under the other box. That's what I'm whining about. So I have one box for reminders where my buddy activity appears, and another box for bookmarks which are supposed to be the crit reminders. Why not concentrate everything in the same space: "Reminders"? <br>

I don't know why it was made into two boxes. But bear with it. It's nice to be able to arrange it above or below the reminders. Maybe there was another reason we don't know about.

Nadinucca 20 Mar 2014 at 14:53  
I wrote your name wrong. Sowwie.
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Clarksvill 20 Mar 2014 at 15:22  
Quote by: Nadinucca
I wrote your name wrong. Sowwie.<br>
You didn't. On CC the names can only be a certain length.

Clareeast 21 Mar 2014 at 01:57  
Quote by: Clarksvill
Quote by: Nadinucca
I wrote your name wrong. Sowwie.<br>
You didn't. On CC the names can only be a certain length.



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Hijo 21 Mar 2014 at 06:40  
I think the only problem with the new system is that it's called bookmarks rather than crit reminders, which confuses the issue with the other bookmarks thing. (Bookmarked pages.)

I think before, you could do both bookmark and crit story and it meant the same thing. Now, you bookmark a story for later, and critique only shows up once you start critting.

Quote by: Clarksvill
Quote by: Hijo
I actually like the new way. I moved reminders all the way to the top left. That way when I have crits I'm working on or messages I see them right away.
Then right below that I put my bookmarked stories.

Yes, that's how I have it. I'm finding it good. Better, actually because I like the reminders on top. But you could put the crit reminders on top. Didn't understand this Clarksvill. In my Reminders box is a tag that says: You have 3 stories in the work. (Or whatever.) Very convenient and right at the top.

Clarksvill 21 Mar 2014 at 07:37  
Quote by: Hijo

I think the only problem with the new system is that it's called bookmarks rather than crit reminders, which confuses the issue with the other bookmarks thing. (Bookmarked pages.)

I think before, you could do both bookmark and crit story and it meant the same thing. Now, you bookmark a story for later, and critique only shows up once you start critting.

Yes, I see that it's not called "crit reminder" any more. Which I think is a shame because it was a more helpful name. If I were a newbie I don't think I would guess that "bookmark" meant that I could mark something for future crit. It sounds more like something you do to mark a story you're already reading.


Quote by: Clarksvill
Quote by: Hijo
I actually like the new way. I moved reminders all the way to the top left. That way when I have crits I'm working on or messages I see them right away.
Then right below that I put my bookmarked stories.

Yes, that's how I have it. I'm finding it good. Better, actually because I like the reminders on top. But you could put the crit reminders on top.

Didn't understand this Clarksvill. In my Reminders box is a tag that says: You have 3 stories in the work. (Or whatever.) Very convenient and right at the top.



Yes, that's how I have it. General reminders box above the new bookmarks (aka crit reminders) box. The messages in the general reminders box is only about crits you've already started, not the ones you intend to do. (That's probably stating the obvious.)
I was also saying that people could put the bookmarks box above the general reminders box if they prefer, so bookmarks (crit reminders) would be in the top box. (Probably. The boxes don't all move everywhere you want and I haven't actually tried it, to be honest.)
Icmartin 24 Mar 2014 at 02:32  
Does anyone know if it's possible to freeze the menu/info section at the top of the page, so that it's always visible? It's such a chore to hit Crtl + home to get back to the top of the page, it's wearing me out!
Clarksvill 24 Mar 2014 at 03:23  
Quote by: Icmartin
Does anyone know if it's possible to freeze the menu/info section at the top of the page, so that it's always visible? It's such a chore to hit Crtl + home to get back to the top of the page, it's wearing me out!
Not able to use the little arrow?

Clarksvill 24 Mar 2014 at 04:47  
I've noticed that on the notebook page the notes are shifted to the right leaving a space down the left side and necessitating a scroll bar along the bottom. It looks as if this might be a slight glitch rather than an intentional thing.
Lilyana 24 Mar 2014 at 06:23  
Quote by: Clarksvill
I've noticed that on the notebook page the notes are shifted to the right leaving a space down the left side and necessitating a scroll bar along the bottom. It looks as if this might be a slight glitch rather than an intentional thing.
I had never played around with the notebook, but I went and created a note to see what you were talking about. I didn't have the same experience. What I found instead is that my note overlaps the little "Personal Notebook" hint at the top when it is in its original position (I tend not to dismiss these hints until I am fully comfortable with the functionality of the related tool) and the positioning and width that I set for the note is not remembered after I navigate away from the page.

Since my issues seem to be different from yours it might be helpful to have a screenshot of what you're referring to with the scrollbar.
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Clarksvill 24 Mar 2014 at 07:42  
That would be a great plan except that I have 60 notes and as soon as I kill one, another piece of potential embarrassment appears in its place. Maybe somebody else...
Hijo 24 Mar 2014 at 07:53  
Quote by: Icmartin
Does anyone know if it's possible to freeze the menu/info section at the top of the page, so that it's always visible? It's such a chore to hit Crtl + home to get back to the top of the page, it's wearing me out!

I asked about this and it seemed I was one of the few that wanted it. On the other thing, all I have to do is hit the home button, no ctrl, and it brings me to the top of the page. Slightly easier.

Icmartin 24 Mar 2014 at 11:39  

I asked about this and it seemed I was one of the few that wanted it. On the other thing, all I have to do is hit the home button, no ctrl, and it brings me to the top of the page. Slightly easier.


Thanks for that, I learned something new.

I wonder why freezing the menu bar can't be an optional setting, then everyone could have it how they like it.
Lilyana 24 Mar 2014 at 11:51  
Quote by: Clarksvill
That would be a great plan except that I have 60 notes and as soon as I kill one, another piece of potential embarrassment appears in its place. Maybe somebody else...
Question: Under the "auto arrange" option, how many columns do you have yours set up to support? I was going to try and compose a bunch of notes to mimic the sixty or so that you have, but when I first make them they pop into existence as a diagonal overlap to the note that was just previously created. This leads me to guess that your issue is centered around the number of columns you're set up with (since it seems organization is not something that is native to Notepad).

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Clarksvill 24 Mar 2014 at 14:29  
When I clicked on auto-arrange it says 2 but most of the older ones I already had seem to be arranged in three columns. (With some unarranged ones on top. )

I've moved all the right hand ones in a bit and the scroll bar has disappeared from the bottom so it looks like the problem isn't really a problem - anyone who has a lot of notes will be able to fix it for themselves without much trouble.

(Any new ones I create now are arranged the same way as yours.)
Lilyana 24 Mar 2014 at 17:49  
Actually, I went playing around with columns and even at a default of 2 I was getting note placement that causes a scrollbar. The easy fix, as you mentioned, is to just manually move them into columns which avoids the random horizontal stretching of the little note boxes. So, yeah, it works, but I was able to recreate your problem (even with two columns), in case you were curious.

BTW, thanks for forcing me to introduce myself to the note system. I think I'm about to fall in love with yet another CC tool =3

~Lily
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